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Monday, July 11, 2005


But I thought Chimpy McHitlerburton and his cabal of neo-cons were the imperialist scum . . .

Here's an interesting post about Islamist imperialism.

Blogger and English professor Jeffery Hodges presented a paper on Islamist imperialism, and he had the following rather startling exchange with the Korean professor who was preparing the response to his paper:

In preparing for the event, I worked with the chairman of my department, who was going to present the response. This was a man of the left who took an active interest in world politics . . . or so I thought. But in my discussions with him about the issues, I came to see that his reading of world events was refracted through the lens of political analysis by the Korean left, which focuses on America's role in all political events, and followed this logic:

Anyone who attacks America is anti-imperialistic.
The 9/11 perpetrators attacked America.
The 9/11 perpetrators were therefore anti-imperialistic.

I suppose that this is a pretty tight argument if one accepts the basic premise, but it's simply untrue that anyone attacking America is anti-imperialistic.I should have asked this Korean professor if the Pearl Harbor attack was an anti-imperialistic act and if the Japanese imperialists had therefore been anti-imperialistic despite their colonization of Korea and their Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

But there was little time for irony.I was occupied with gently explaining to him that, no, the United States has no military bases in Israel and that Bin Laden's reference to American troops in the land of the two holy mosques was not an allusion to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem with its Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque but a reference to Saudi Arabia and its two holy places of Mecca and Medina.

Then, he floored me with this question:

"Well, are there any of these sorts of attacks elsewhere in the world and not against Americans?"

Speechless at first, when I found my voice again, I asked:"Are you serious? Is this a rhetorical question?"

He assured me that he was serious.

So, I said:"Have you never heard of the jihad in Sudan, the attacks in Nigeria, the attacks in Indonesia, the conflict in the Philippines . . . and many other places, all of which have little to do with America?"

"And these have nothing to do with politics?" he asked."

There is always politics," I replied, "but you cannot ignore the factor of religion, especially in Islam, which encompasses politics within religion."

(Via Maverick Philosopher)

That Professor could be a poster boy for this great Norman Geras article on the simplistic reductionism of the left:

There is a space of political and moral particularity that the reference back to capitalism or imperialism, and the reference sideways to the United States of America, cannot displace. Structures and procedures of authoritarian or dictatorial or out-and-out murderous rule are just what they are, and they differ-in ways that matter as much as anything in the social universe matters-from democratic institutions and procedures and the protections afforded to individual human beings by the rule of law. These differences have their own specific gravity, and it is mystifying why so many people worldwide, whose central values purport to be about the liberation of human beings from oppression, have seemed to give them so little weight, so little practical, choice-determining weight, in how they have aligned themselves politically in recent times.

The Taliban in Afghanistan; Saddam's Iraq; the reduction of a human being by torture; the use of terror randomly to kill innocents and to smite all those by whom they are cherished; mass murder; ethnic cleansing; all the manifold practices of human evil-to look upon these and at once see "capitalism," "imperialism," "America," is not only to show a poverty of moral imagination, it is to reveal a diminished understanding of the human world. A social or political science, or a practical politics, that cannot rise to the level of what has been understood, in their own mode, by the great religions-and I say this as a resolute and lifelong atheist-and what has also been understood, in their own mode, by all the great literatures of the world, is a science and a politics that can no longer be taken seriously. It should not be taken seriously by anyone attached to the democratic and egalitarian values that have always been at the heart of the broad socialist tradition.

9 Comments:

Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Thanks, Kate Marie, for the link. Interesting to see how blogs wind their way through cybersphere.

This Rumpus blog looks like an interesting one to meander through.

By the way, check the spelling of my name: "Jeffery."

Jeffery Hodges

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July 12, 2005 10:38 PM  
Blogger Kate Marie said...

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July 12, 2005 11:18 PM  
Blogger Kate Marie said...

Thanks for the post, Jeffery. I'm sure I'll be meandering through your blog again.

And I'm so sorry for misspelling your name. I'll correct that in the post right now.

July 12, 2005 11:19 PM  
Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Kate Marie, you might want to check one more time.

Don't worry -- I'm not offended. You're making very common mistakes with my name. Just last week, Jim Davila of PaleoJudaica made the same error in trying to correct the spelling of my name. He, too, came up with "Jefferey."

My name seems to be a difficult one. My first-grade teacher insisted that I spell it "Jeffrey," and for years, I did, not entirely certain of the real spelling until I needed my birth certificate for something when I was in my latter twenties.

I'm merely fighting a losing battle to keep my name correct on the internet . . .

Jeffery Hodges

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July 13, 2005 12:54 AM  
Blogger Kate Marie said...

Oh, my gosh, I can't believe I did that again! And I usually pride myself on remembering uncommon spellings of names and words. Well, we know what pride goeth before, I guess.

I give you my solemn pledge that henceforth whenever I link to your blog (which I plan to do), I will check and double-check the spelling of your name -- and then check again.

I was reading around your blog earlier, and I loved your posts on Milton. The posts on China were great, too.

Anyway, thanks again for stopping by.

July 13, 2005 1:28 AM  
Blogger Conservative in Virginia said...

CIV is sorry Dad risked his life, gave some of his hearing, and hurt his back to save that sorry department chairman's neck. [And I usually have a soft spot in my heart for Koreans.]

July 13, 2005 4:44 PM  
Blogger Kate Marie said...

Hey, CIV -- please thank your father for his service!

July 13, 2005 6:24 PM  
Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Kate Marie, I'm glad that you liked my Milton posts. They were some of my favorites to write, but I doubt that most people care much for that sort of blogpost.

Not that I mind about that.

Jeffery Hodges

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July 14, 2005 5:25 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Jeffery: I sympathize with your name-spelling issue. For nearly a decade, the District of Columbia has insisted that my driver's license spell my name the way you spell yours, even though that isn't how I spell it. I've twice told them to fix it. They never do.

CIV: I went to South Korea last summer. I drove the entire length of the country, spent some time in Seoul, and took a tour of the DMZ. The country is clean, modern, safe, prosperous, and hospitable to visitors. Although some younger Koreans may not appreciate it, by helping to save millions of people from half a century of slavery your dad did a damn good thing.

July 14, 2005 10:05 PM  

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